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Posted by MakeGamesHappen - February 12th, 2014


Fathom by Adam Atomic is a short little game that I really like. If you are one of my testers, could you play it, and let me know what you think about it? I feel that, fathom is better polished an more exciting than MakeChoice at the moment. I would like tester opinions on this. Obviously it isn't quite comparing apples to apples. But I am thinking in terms of... How this game hooks you right away. http://adamatomic.com/fathom/  


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Is AdamAtomic the guy who created Canabalt? Let me check this out, it's probably pretty swell.

Sure, from Adam, the usage of Flixel is expected. I really like the music and the graphics, epically retro and well made. The colorful graphical style reminds me, remotely, of, say, the Megaman games on the SNES. The sound effects are satisfying and nice too.

The platforming controls are fluent enough, except the jump is a bit too floaty, but the walking and shooting work perfectly. The stages are designed cleverly, offering a challenge, but nice rewards too, and its simple, fast paced, straight forward mechanics are pretty good.

Can't say the same about the swimming controls, though, I feel like they are awkward and weird. I don't think angular movement is the best way to go with a retro game whose stages are built with square blocks. Sure, it's still rewarding once you unravel underwater secrets, and I like the fish that follow the character around, but in general, I think it could be dropped in favor of something less annoying. That not to mention the underwater stage seems to be a maze, it's hard to know what to do in it.

I eventually got sick of the game after spending ages in the underwater level. I don't understand where he was going with this. He had a gem of a game in the non-water stage, but then he chose to go the asinine way and make this terrible water part.

Yeah, I didn't care much for the water part.
The water part was interesting when I first sunk into it. But then quickly got boring as I got lost and confused. I did manage to grow the tree a bit with some energy pack or something I collected. But I guess I couldn't find all of these energy pack thingies.

The beginning though I thought was pretty amazing. Especially seeing that... I think he did this game in a week?

Yes, he made Canabalt.

Well, I eventually found out that I was supposed to follow the fish, so I plant a weird dark tree and then I go into a tunnel and then... I die, the end. Strange game. Would have been slightly more enjoyable if the controls weren't so horrible, and if the game didn't fool us into believing it will be a fun retro platformer in the beginning.

Yeah, feels more like a demo for Flixel than an actual game when you play it through.
And in that right, it does a good job showing us the potential.
-MakeGamesHappen
(-John Mark)

I found it hard to enjoy, but the game itself was good. The music at the first part was a great match to an action styled pixel game. I also loved the exploding sound. But the fact that the boss seems unbeatable no matter how hard you try, is just painful. I would rather defeat his health bar and see how he crushes me later.

The second part was hard. I sincerely had no idea what was I supposed to do, but just randomly going up and down. As I read it it now that I was suppose to follow those fishes, I thought that these fishes were following you, lol. The controls are difficult, many players will find that annoying, but to me it was just what it needs to travel underwater. Love the darkening ocean on the way down, but that light at the end was just shocking as I found that you die?

Are there more possible endings or do I have to ask myself what the heck was that? Still, seems a fun game for players that like exploring and figuring out some puzzles.

Adam Atomic made it in a week I believe. From what I have read about it. So I do not believe there are multiple endings. I only really liked the first part. The water part was visually and somewhat technically impressive. But when I take off my art and programmer hat... The water part was not enjoyable.

Yeah, they did the same thing in Mega Man X1 when battling Vile in the intro stage.
Though I believe vile could kill you, but you could not kill him.

Maybe a better option would be that, if you destroy the machine boss in fathom,
the machine falls apart and takes out the ground anyways. And you still plummet into the water.
That way it would feel less staged.

-MakeGamesHappen
(-John Mark)

Game has it's own style, including great pixel graphics, neat big pixelled backgrounds, fast paced electro music. Water level is not very commonlike, but the bubbles, fish and the darkening effects are fantastic!

Not a very long game :) But I would have played it, even not being a beta-tester. (Thanks for invitation). Managed to finish the water level in 3 trials (game reloads) which were separated with anger attacks :) (1st: found the suspiciously lighted soil, 2nd: found the green core; 3rd: thought of placing the only object in the level in the soil).
Do you have to collect enough fish, so that the green core appears?

Ground controls are OK (maybe WASD controls would be better). Underwater controls are hard, but understandable.

Glitches: got stuck between the falling blocks never to be able to jump out again.

Keep it up! Graphics: 5, Music: 5; Story: ?; Controls: 4; Atmosphere: 5;
Thanks!

I rage quit fathom after I couldn't find the last green core thingy. I think you need 3?
Not sure if the fish do anything.

I initially coded the falling blocks so, if there is room, you are [pushed/pinched] out of the way.
This is a mistake I think. Though it will feel cheep to get nicked by a falling block when there was plenty of room to the side of it... The little hack I made just makes the game play weird.

And like you and a few others have noted, you sometimes gets stuck within the tiles!

Will probably make some type of detection that kills you instantly if you accidentally get
stuck inside of tiles. I am doing my best to make this game playable WITHOUT the restart button.

Though we will probably have to make the restart button a final feature, since we can never be 100% sure are levels are devoid of soft locks.

-MakeGamesHappen
(-John Mark)

The game seems easy to control after knowing what buttons to press and I thought at first like any other pixel games that space bar is the jump button. I think that the game should at least have a simple pop up at start of the game telling you what buttons are to which actions, and I thought the press anything for instruction button at the start screen was to tell you the controls of the character, also a simple pop up before the game to tell a simple story/introduction/prologue of the game, rather than throwing the player into the game and allow the player to understand what is going on and what to do.

The other problems I had and can see in the game is the falling blocks. At first, I thought I was able to jump above the blocks after it had fallen like how some would play super mario, but I got damaged instead and stuck too at some point. Also, there should also be a pop up in the game explaining how the blue points work.

I like the idea of you dropping into water anyway whether you have defeated the boss or not, but a lot of the players prefer having more freedom in controls during a battle, so it will be more fun if the character can shoot up at the boss and any enemies at the top, the battle in game can also be longer if the damage caused by the character is higher, players tend like to defeat the boss in the battle, than to continue the story.

The dropping into the water part was confusing at first as the controls is directed into another different action. I prefer having a pop up when dropped into the water telling me that pressing this button to turn on the lights and shooting bubbles propel yourself which is a totally different action to the character that is still on the ground and rather than having the player sinking in the water and rolling about pressing the buttons to figure out how to control the character. And also, the fishes there tend to look more like following you than you should follow them to where to go. I did not manage to finish that under water level as it is hard to control and navigate through the maze.

Still, I really like game's background music, especially the relaxing feel it had when in water and background designs. Overall, the game is still fun to play at some point.
Since the game is somehow similar to the game called Metal Slug at some point, I would recommend the creator play the recommended game to get some ne

I couldn't beat the water part. I thought the water part was pretty and interesting, but it definitely lost my interest.

I actually really like the opening menu. It is very clever and elegant.
"Click For Instructions" forces you to click inside the game, thus making sure the game is in focus/active.

If you do NOT press "Z + X" to play like it says, the game will NOT continue.
I also like this. It is forcing compliance. It would rather have you NOT play the game than
play the game and NOT know what buttons to press. This makes a lot of sense to me.
Because someone is more likely to grade my game poorly if they play it and don't know what to do.
This prevents that.

The thwomps I didn't mind. They behaved like super Mario thwomps.
Though super mario thwomps have spikes on them which indicate that you cannot
touch them.

Playing it again... I see what you mean about the thwomps. Those bolts are right up there
and it is highly suggestive that you can climb up them and get the bolt.
The bolts definitely need to look dangerous to touch if they can hurt you on contact even
when not in motion.

Like you mentioned, I do feel the bolts needed some type of explanation.

Thanks for your review!

-MakeGamesHappen
(-John Mark)

Truth be told, I'm not really sure how to review the game. The player was immediately dropped off in the first level, with the small blaster in hand and no instructions given. I think the idea of it was supposed to make the player feel startled, shocked. After all, this was the first level. But eased into it we were not.

Like most, I assumed that this was going to be an action run n'gun platformer, what with the really fast (Not to mention catchy!) beats in the back ground, with these stranger sprinkler(?) enemies propelling water(?) from the ceiling. I did appreciate the fact that the controls were clarified in the intro screen. Z and X, no hassle or annoying little popups telling you what to do.

The controls were pretty fluid, smooth, and weren't difficult to use. I'm really fond of the double jump button, and, if the game really takes off, it would be pretty neat to incorporate that into the gameplay. Then, it would be much easier to avoid the falling blocks from the ceiling. Speaking of which, they docked off some of my health when I tried to go back and collect the blue bolts (Thought they restored my health or something). If it was more apparent that the enemy blocks were to be avoided, like adding spikes around edges to make it more clear. Also, do the bolts do anything?

The boss fight was also confusing, as you couldn't beat him. The player never had chance to win, and before they knew it, they were underwater. It was pretty pointless.

The art for the game was great, especially for the underwater sequence, the bubble effects and the numerous multicolored fish added a sort of whimsical tone to it. The music gave it a calming yet foreboding feel to the surroundings. However, it wasn't clear that you were supposed to follow the fish, and a gimmick would've helped. Say, having the fish form an arrow formation to point the way (Kind of like 'Finding Nemo.').

The ending is what really got me. Quite honestly, the whole game confused me. I can't help but think there must be a deeper meaning in the game, and I just couldn't grasp on why it was such a curveball. I was not expecting it to turn out the way it did (Maybe this is what AA had in mind?). It left me with questions (Don't know if I should applaud or condemn him!). But the game itself isn't bad, there were several factors that made it interesting. Fathom has some good potential in it.

I thought the underwater portion was anti-climatic.
At first it was interesting and a good change of pace.
But then annoyed me as I couldn't find what I was looking for in the dark.

I am sorry I missed this post of your's somehow. I was reviewing old new's posts when
I found it. I'll send you a message to let you know I finally received it.

-John Mark